Savannah: Well, we are Romanian gypsies. We’re from everywhere. I was born in Washington, and I’ve lived coast to coast and everywhere in between. I went to over 15 schools before I went to high school.
Dillon: I was born in Idaho. I don’t even remember most of the first part of my life.
S: He moved around just as much as I did. Just six years behind. He’s my little brother. We come from a long gypsy bloodline. We travel a lot, and we’re actually headed down to Peru. We’ve made it this far. We want to go see the Mayan and Aztec temples. And we want to build ourselves a pirate ship.
D: We want to build a ship and sail…
S: … because we’re capable of it. I know how to do blueprints; I can build a house from the ground up. I’m a certified mechanic, I’m ex-military. I’m certified in 21 different trades. Every opportunity is something new to learn and learn it the best way possible.
D: And I can weld.
S: So, with those skills, we’re capable of going down there and building our own ship. And because our dad is a mountain man, we know how to survive in any terrain. And, so, we’re going to try the jungle. ‘Cause we grew up in the forest and the desert, and eh… let’s try something new. We want to go to our homeland, Romania. We want to sail as close as we can, and then we’ll go on foot inland.
D: We live many different lifestyles. From cowboy to gangster.
S: Cowboy, gangster, pirate. Whatever! We’ve done it all. But our natural lineage is pirates. Gypsies.
D: Pirate is just a male gypsy. We’re not a bunch of thieves and all. That’s Roma.
S: No, no no. That’s bad. Bad connotation. Thieves gave gypsies and pirates a bad name. But we’re very good people with a lot of honor. Very, very family oriented.
D: But if you want another word for what we specifically are, we’re nomads.
S: Well, we have a lot of very famous people in our family. We’re related to Abraham Lincoln. We’re related to Billy the Kid. We’re related to Buffalo Bill. On my dad’s side … on my grandpa’s side, we’re related to Adolf Hitler. We’re very weird, right?
D: Hey, I don’t know if you or anyone else on this taper or whatever knows about the Book of the Secret, but that’s our family…
S: Yeah our family… one of our distant relatives wrote that book. The book or the movie. There’s a lot of Generation X or the Indigo kids, or whatever you want to call them. Anonymous or whatever. They’re all very educated in that book or that movie.
D: Free your mind.
S: Free your mind, and use the universe to your advantage. Our passion is life.
D: Travelling, teaching, learning…
S: Our passion is life, living life, and enjoying life. But actually living. Not conforming and being conditioned. We were never taught to be conditioned. To do what everybody else in society does. It’s repetition. It’s insane.
D: Doing exactly what your heart desires – that’s living. If you’re not doing exactly what your heart desires, you’re dying. Period. That’s how I see it.
S: So, we believe that the only limits that we have are the ones that we set for ourselves. There is no true limits to life and what we’re capable of. If we can think of it, we can do it, or we can create it. And so we’ve proven….
D: The way I see it, what I personally have proven in my lifetime, is because I know I can live a lot longer than the average Joe, I want to explore this entire planet. And then we have the technology and capability to go to other planets any everywhere else in space. So might as well explore the entirety of the universe, then die, and move on to the next thing. That’s what I want to do.
S: Well, let this form die. Take on a new one. There’s no such thing as typical because every day is so drastically different. We don’t plan. No. Our overall plan – we’re just going about, whatever comes up, until Tuesday. We need to get his things back. He got arrested –
S+D: For trespassing on public property.
S: Totally crazy, right?
D: Basically means I went to jail.
S: Yup. Because I made them angry.
D: And I made them angry too.
S: After that, we’re going to make our way down to San Diego and then Mexico. We are very extreme people. We have very extreme lives. Extreme things happen to us a lot. It’s very crazy.
D: I walked the 101 in 4 days. From San Francisco to San Luis Obispo. With a 125 pound backpack. It was my body weight. Then once I got to San Luis Obispo, I dropped – I got rid of a bunch of stuff.
S: So yes, we sit around and enjoy people. We walk around and enjoy people, and try to make their energies more positive – even if it’s just a smile. Get them to smile. I walk around and tell everybody, “Smile, it makes the world beautiful.” I believe that all women should be complimented. At least a hundred times a day. So I tell every woman I see, “Smile – it makes the world as beautiful as you are.”
D: But as should the men! We should all be complimented as well. Everybody, I believe – no, I know – until we all agree that everybody is a good person, we are all bad. If one single person thinks that anyone is bad, then we are all bad.
S: In a way, to me it’s if we don’t help each other to be good, then why are we? How can we consider ourselves good, if we look down on anybody? If we don’t believe and help them to be good? If you see somebody who grows short, help them to get past it. If you don’t, you’re just as low as they are.
D: Like, think about how much pirates were frowned upon. People were even scared to approach them. But now, in modern society, being different is not frowned upon as much. Being different is wanted – people want to be different.
S: [Pirate lifestyle is about] doing what you want. I live by the words of Cartman, from South Park, “I do what I want!”
D: Yup, and “Respect my authoritah!”
S: I was a huge drug dealer in Idaho. And I dropped everything. I got rid of everything. I gave away my house, got rid of my car, got rid of all my stuff, and said, “I’m done.” I have outgrown the city, I have outgrown this life, I know everything that there is to know, I’ve been through everything that you could possibly go through – I’m done with it. I’ve never been addicted to a drug in my life.
D: It is never difficult to leave and grow.
S: So there’s nothing here for me. I want to go somewhere else. I want to go to Mexico. I don’t know anything about Mexico. I can learn a new language, I can learn a whole new culture, all kinds of new things. New plants, new terrains, all kinds of stuff. And then I can move on to South America. And I can learn languages there. And I can learn terrain there. I can learn animals and plants. There’s always more to learn.
D: Until you know how everyone thinks, you can’t teach anyone. And it’s not so much teaching them. It’s more, we can see exactly how they see, but they just can’t see how we see because they’re taught in the way that they see to not – it’s shunned.
S: Everybody is born with the knowing. It’s just the conditioning of… they condition you to basically jar it up. To hide it . To forget what you know. Because you’re going to know what they know. And it starts from childbirth all the way through school.
D: And it’s very bad what they teach you because they teach you to reject half of yourself. You can’t do that. You can’t have positive without negative.
S: We willingly stayed away. To watch and learn. We’re taught to be observant. So, that’s what we do. And we love it. Every minute of it.
Excerpt paraphrased and edited for clarity.